IE 6

Well… they have an option to upgrade, by… buying new computer! :] Using Windows 98 or Me in 2010 can be compared to one of Die Hard III (Die Hard with Vengeance) opening scenes - i.e. going down to Harlem with I hate Niggas table on your chest! :] ;] ;]

But seriously. I’m talking here about people that can upgrade, but refuses to do so. Just like someone before me mentioned. All those busy managers…

it’s seems money is nothing for you ;)

thats is REALITY, like this topic said

"Is anybody still using this?"

the answer is YES(in my country), regardless they want/turn-off the update fitur or not, thats is they choice(maybe all people in your country so clever to turn it on).

just like someone said "the buyers is a king"

Oh, you misunderstood me.

Money is a big problem for me. To be honest with you, up until now I haven’t bought any computer directly for cash, I had to take loan (credit) for each of my new machine, I bought! :( But, on the other hand I’m realistic person, with more reality-economic point of view. And I am more than sure that using old, buggy equipment (both software and hardware) can be much more expensive than costs of upgrade - to name data loss and leakage of private data as primary, but not only things.

I asked you to forgive me for my strong words and I’m asking for this again now, but I won’t change my mind. Turning off Microsoft Updates is a very huge stupidity, if you take into account, how many bugs and security holes there are in Microsoft software. If one has blocked Microsoft Updates due to having illegal copy, should in my opinion either buy a legal one or switch to free alternative of Linux, OpenOffice etc. Again - I respect money - but I’m pretty sure that costs of using insecure software may be and often are much higher than expenses for new, more secure equipment.

its okay, nothing should be forgiven 8)

Let me once more reopen the discussion… String I found inside WordPress code:

Well… I don’t know like others but lack of support of Internet Explorer 6 by such medium like WordPress (6 million new blogs, 146 million new posts, 53 billion pageviews and 94,5 terabyte of media uploaded in 2010) is a great argument for throwing away IE 6 support in both Yii and Yii-powered applications.

Trejder

Currently we don’t have serious problems with IE6 in Yii (framework) so there is no extra support required.

Sorry, I wrote it mistakenly. Of course there isn’t and there shouldn’t be no problem with Yii and IE 6 as this is server-side framework and most problem with IE 6 relates to CSS, JavaScript and sometimes HTML - all client-side languages.

what he said "c’mon there is 1000 employers in this company and most of them using IE6(from windows xp bundle),

i have 20,000 - 30,000 employers in this company and most of them using IE6(from windows xp SP2) :-[

http://ie6countdown.com (by Microsoft!)

Personally, I don’t care about feature parity on IE6 anymore, I just check that websites degrade gracefully.

For me it depends on the audience. Degrades gracefully is fine if the site’s aimed at designers, developers and geeks.

I’ve had to develop internal sites for big organisations who run exclusively IE6 (and still do). In these cases there’s no escape.

Also for ecommerce sites it’s worth going the extra mile with IE6 support to avoid missing out on any sales.

These are the IE stats for my site that launched yesterday with ~8500 hits, in Brazil:

IE 8 73%

IE 7 16%

IE 9 7%

IE 6 2%

Finally IE 6 is dying!

IE 6 users are mostly from the East:

China: 34%

South Korea: 22%

Vietnam: 12%

However, Google has announced that they will stop supporting older browsers.

That includes IE 6 and IE 7, Firefox 3.5 and Safari 3.

A bit excessive, perhaps?

But, that does not change that the aging ID 6 browser from 2001 (!) is hopelessly insecure and totally open to all kinds of malicious attacks… Sitting ducks.

If it’s the money, why are they not using Linux ?

I haven’t heard that news, but if this is true, if they are about to “kill” for example Firefox 3.5, then yes - this is not only excessive a bit, but a radical decision.

Especially since “they” (Mozilla) keeps promising us that each new version is 10x, 16x or so faster than previous one and the true is that each new version of FF gets slower and slower then ever. I’m serious thinking about downgrading from 4.0 to 3.6 as “sixteen times faster than 3.6” edition of Firefox turned out to be even slower that 3.6 (which itself was soooou slow!). Some of my friends started to call it “Firecow” it is that slow.

Because there is no IE 6 under Linux? :] :] :]

nah, i personally dropped support for ie6… i could do something else than spending my time optimizing for it

Ditched IE6 some time ago despite our site dealing with money and that process being the core of the buissines. If someone complains - we just tell to update his browser or go away :)

There are companies where much money is spent on things like SAP etc., so why not paying for browser support? Once I was working for a company where 100K were spent on a e-learning-software which (I’m sure about that) was not really used by the employees.

For example, in a recent project they still used IE7. Why? Because of the SAP update. They couldn’t estimate which impact the browser-update would have on the SAP software. :rolleyes:

  • Additional browser support should be calculated separatly, on a per version basis.

  • This should always be written in offers

  • It’s not good to do something like an additional browser compatibility for free, because at some point you will loose the fun part of your work.

  • It’s just a matter of communication with the customer.

  • The changing of the versions is a business model to make money, so take your chance. Light bulbs could also burn forever but they don’t.

:D